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Convenience stores in VT sell ammo? COOL!

Yeah, I worked in the Fairlee General Store evenings years ago. We stocked typical hunting cartridges as well as .22 and 357 mag. Right next to the "smoothy" ice cream machine.

It seems like every few years some jackass gets a brainstorm and comes up with "bullet control" and touts it like it was something new. You'd think someone on anti-gun side would actually come up with a new idea once in a while. I guess their creativity is on par with their intelligence.

And as always, this type of legislation doesn't really work. It won't have much of an effect on crime, and all it does it make more paperwork and cost more money for the retailers. It was tried in Florida during the 1970's. Didn't work then and I doubt seriously if it would work now.

They don't know "bullets" from "cartridges" from "ammunition" and they want to make laws controlling them. Typical assholes. Jack.

Being that I load my own ammunition, I'll be sure to "keep my registration papers in order".

Jack has a perfect point - if a politician isn't smart enough to know the proper terminology, how can you expect them to make effective laws?

The Albany, NY newspaper once did an article rating the "most effective" state politicians. Their criteria? The ones who introduced the most bills! Didn't matter if the bills were needed or desirable or even sensible. That's the NY State way. I'm SO glad I moved to East TN last year. Here most politicians list their NRA-Life membership along with the rest of their credentials.

Bullet serial numbering schemes are doomed to failure. Unless the real intent is not to increase successful criminal prosecutions but instead to demonize and increase the expense for people exercising their inalienable rights.

Yes, a lot of politicians are stupid. But some of them are not and they know that even if their scheme won't bring about the advertised results it will bring about results they deem beneficial to their agenda.

Now Bullets are evil too! I'm sure criminals are just victims. What bugs me most is the GFWs use of anti-logic to prove their points. Like the SLC Mall shooting. They blame the incident on guns. Not on the lunatic muslim that planned and carried out the attack. Guns were already banned in that Mall. The lack of guns allowed that to happen.
Same thing with the NY auxiliary cops. We call their uniformed and unarmed position "Bullet Magnets". Again, was the lack and not the excess of guns what caused all this. No ban will work. Proof is there. "Illegal" guns are already prohibited in NYC. I guess someone forgot to tell the criminal.
Banning or further controlling ammunition will only favor the criminals.

This is just a setup for one of AG Andrew Cuomo's campaign promises, bullet serialization.

As an aside, Sen. Eric Schneiderman is not happy with the Parker decision. He thinks it might affect his ability to introduced more gun control bills. See www.schneiderman.org.

Actually, I think I might start swaging my own bullets, find out the serial number of someone I don't like, etch in on my own bullets, then commit a crime.

Because, really - who would go through that much trouble.

It's a lot easier to prevent sales to the common, harmless, law-abiding sort.

Low-hanging fruit, you know. (Might be valueless fruit, bitter, and without nutritional value, but hey - it's fruit, and you can Be Seen To Be Doing Something!)

The news on AOL concerning Bloomberg written by Kristen Gelineau commented on the Virginia dealer doing a "counterattack against the North." Whether this was the writer's take on it or the dealer's, be all reminded that dealers in Ohio and Pennsylvania were also sued. This has nothing to do with "North" and "South." This is specifically coming from the mayor of NYC against many. There is no room here for that sort of dated sentiment. All northerners are not from NYC!! We all need to stick together to fight this.

Even Maryland police units told the legislature that it was/would be too expensive to try to enforce/analyze "serialized shell casings."

Some just don't quit. Nor do they read what's beyond their own noses.

Hey Eric;
How did you ever make Captain at NYPD?

All I have to say
http://www.gunowners.org/skeptic.htm

All I want to ask is "Where is the ACLU when these Dealers need their Constitutional Rights protected?"

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The ACLU? Surely you jest. Jack.

Subject: Gun History

Gun History

Whether you agree with gun ownership or not, it's an interesting lesson in history. Something to think about...

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear our president, governors or other politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.

You are right on every account.

England requires a permit to buy bullets (I don't know what the law it now that guns are virtually banned). I had a license for a .22 cal target rifle back in 1950. And you needed a permit to own ammunition. I wanted a permit to buy a couple of thousand rounds a year because I was target shooting and did a lot of practice. The cop that was interviewing my permit application almost fell over when I told him I wanted to buy two bricks at a time and keep that many at home. I never once imagined that I would be facing the same situation here in America.

berge