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January 04, 2007Idiocy in Ark City, KansasIn a biased piece, we learn a lot about the low opinion that cops and former cops hold of their subjects in Ark City, Kansas. This is with reference to the Kansas law that went into effect January 1st, allowing residents who've passed background checks, training, etc., to obtain a permit allowing them to conceal carry firearms. From ArkCity.net:
Indeed. The current Police Chief, Sean Wallace, claiming -- in so many words -- that many ordinary citizens aren't trained to handle a firearm in a conflict, offers this nonsense:
Yes, just ask all the innocent people gunned down by New York City cops. Posted by Jeff Soyer at January 4, 2007 07:58 AM Comments
I'm a little surprised about the Ark City ( it's actually Arkansas City, but everyone in the area abbreviates it ) chief. That burg is small enough you'd think the urban nanny attitude wouldn't surface. Of course, a small town police chief can get pretty full of himself, just like a big city one. Here in Wichita I was surprised by how many businesses DID NOT have the sign up yesterday. I may have to canvas several of the shopping areas and strip malls this weekend and collect some statistics. "For instance, if someone posed a deadly threat to an officer or citizen, the police officer could use chemical mace, or a taser, before a gun." This moron was a police chief? If someone poses a deadly threat, you respond with deadly force. Anything else is reckless and irresponsible. Posted by: Yosemite Sam at January 4, 2007 12:47 PMI love how they end the article: Farid immigrated from Malaysia, a country that has strict gun control laws that limit the availability of guns to non-law enforcement officers. Violation of such laws can result in seven years imprisonment or death by hanging." I'm sure the editors of this paper would love to have Malaysian style gun control here. As far as Farid, he he doesn't like freedom, then he can bugger off back to Malaysia where he came from. We have more than enough home grown anti-freedom bigots. Posted by: Yosemite Sam at January 4, 2007 12:54 PMTHAT and the opening whine by one citizen were the reasons I deemed this so heavily biased. Posted by: Jeff Soyer at January 4, 2007 01:21 PMSo the cops are trained to "diffuse" such situations, eh? Sounds to me like a reporter wasn't trained very well in the English language, use thereof. Posted by: Tennessee Budd at January 4, 2007 03:18 PMPrivate citizens who are concerned enough to get the training, background check and the permit frequently practice more than police officers and are arguably better shots. They're not likely to use their weapons without thinking because they know they're not protected from prosecution by a badge. And they're very seldom stupid enough to use their weapons in commission of a crime because they know their name and fingerprints are on file. As recent shootings of unarmed folks who posed no threat of any kind by police show, officers and deputies are no more immune to adrenalin than anyone else and less inhibited because they know their chances of going to prison for murder are nil...they could lose their badge, but the number of prosecutions is tiny. LEO's often must inject themselves into stressful situations. Unfortunately, good guys and bad guys no longer wear black and white hats, and the LEO may have to interpret exactly what is happening. Thus the need for intensive training. When a woman is faced with a man with a knife who says "your'e coming with me", there is very little to interpret. Why can't these people understand this? Posted by: Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner at January 4, 2007 06:08 PM"I don't like the idea of 120 people that I don't know carrying guns," I DO like the idea of 120 MORE people I don't know carrying guns, people at least somewhat trained and vetted - to help offset all the thugs, criminals and nuts who are already carrying guns illegally. Posted by: Glenmore at January 5, 2007 09:13 AMRight, Glenmore, and those illegallly carrying are going to keep carrying illegally no matter how many laws get passed...they're criminals already. The 120 more trained, checked and permitted armed folks act a s a great deterrent...If you can't tell who's armed and who's not, they're not as likely to go attack a stranger, are they? Posted by: doug in colorado at January 5, 2007 11:54 AM"I don't like the idea of 120 people that I don't know carrying guns" I guess ignorance is bliss. She seems to forget that there may be hundreds of criminals out there carrying guns who she "doesn't know". Besides, what the hell difference does it make if she knows them?! Posted by: Craig at January 5, 2007 09:41 PMI happen to live in this town, and the former COP did make it his agenda, and the way he went about "informing "business owners, went something like this, "Here put this in your window". the comment input form disappears. Your comments are welcome. You don't need to enter a URL and you don't need a "valid" email address, either. Note though that MT Blacklist is installed to flag suspiciously spam-like strings. Unfortunately, because of the bastard spammers, the strings "google.com" and "yahoo.com" (even in your email address) are currently banned as well. So are strings such as "cialis" (a common spam) which rules out words such as "socialism". Try putting a hyphan in a word like that. By Golly, you're reading an archived post. Click Here to head to the main page and read current stuff...Into science fiction? Check out my group blog novel, Colony: Alchibah. See the reader's guide there for first-timer tips. |