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August 29, 2006NY AG Candidates on Gun ViolenceHat-tip to reader Jay F. for pointing me to The Rochester (NY) Democrat & Chronicle where they ask various candidates for Attorney General -- all of them Democrats -- about how they would "curb gun violence". It's instructive that two of them ignore the cause of gun violence -- criminals -- and instead focus entirely on more gun control... In their own words, first up, Andrew Cuomo:
Um, Andrew? New York already has an AWB. Might not go as far as you and the Brady Bunch would like (such as banning pre-'94 hi-cap mags) but it follows the now-defunct federal ban. I notice that -- again -- he blames guns and gun makers rather than thugs and criminals and wants to violate the "Protection of Lawful Commerce...Act" and try to make some money suing everybody in sight. Except the criminals. Well, if you think Cuomo is extreme, check out Mark Green:
Is that all? Just legislation, regulations, and legal settlements to pretty much make guns useless in self-defense, get rid of affordable ones for poor people, sue everyone in sight (seems to be a common theme in NY) and require ballistic fingerprinting (you know, the technology that hasn't solved a crime yet in MD). That's all! Oh, and nothing about going after the gang-bangers. Not all the choices for Attorney General are so bleak. Better is Sean Patrick Maloney:
At least Maloney wants to go after the criminals and actually punish them! One thing in his statement: When he says that NY needs an efficient background check, does he not know there's one now (background check) or does he mean it isn't efficient -- takes too long for law-abiding applicants? Okay, one more thing: The death penalty should be given to all murderers, not just those of children, police, etc. All law-abiding citizen's lives are precious and those who murder must face the ultimate punishment. Still, Maloney sounds pretty reasonable. None of this talk about bans, Saturday night specials, or other nonsense. Another candidate who "gets it" is Charles G. King:
Go after the gangs. That's the big one and I've been harping about it here for almost four years. I don't have NY statistics but cops estimate that in the Los Angelas area there are 100 THOUSAND (!) active gang members. New Jersey estimates over 17 thousand. I'm sure it's not much better in NY City or other large cities in the state. Heck, we're even seeing signs of it here in Vermont. Go after the gangs. Lock them up forever. Crime will drop like a stone in a pond. Anyway, rather a stark contrast between the views presented. Cuomo and Green blame and would punish law abiding citizens by depriving them of their rights. Maloney and King would rather go after the mutant thugs committing all the crime. I've already written about republican candidate Jeanine Pirro who, while claiming otherwise, has spent her career favoring gun control. Pretty simple choices, huh? By the way, I don't follow NY politics all that closely and if any of you know that Maloney or King are not as gun-rights friendly as they present themselves in these essays, please comment about it for the sake of all NY gun-owning voters. Comments
The NICS check is inefficient and slow? Who knew? The last couple guns I've bought, it took about 3 minutes. Of course, that was in South Carolina. Perhaps in NYC they have a different definition of "inefficient." :) (I wouldn't be surprised--I'm from Boston.) Posted by: Rick C at August 29, 2006 09:28 AMThe FBI is the POC for all NY state NICS checks.The polititions have never done a check and know nothing about it. I have done many and know a lot about it. You notice that they never go into detail. Liberal democrat assholes, all of them. Jack Posted by: Jack Lorenz at August 29, 2006 09:55 AMWell, I do think there is also a background check performed by either the state or local law enforcement when you apply for a permit to purchase a handgun. That might be what Maloney was referring to but I'm not sure. Posted by: Jeff Soyer at August 29, 2006 10:11 AMMr. Soyer, Are you aware of any penalties that the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act may have for those who still insist on violating the spirit of this law by initiating these bogus civil suits? Restitution of legal fees, maybe? It seems to me that the transgressors you listed will file law suits, regardless of the law prohibiting such, in an attempt to possibly get the defendant's (manufacturer's) insurance company (usually the entity paying for legal defense) to settle out of court. This has, of course, the by-product of raising the insurance rates of those companies. This is a "wear them out" strategy, whereby the result is pushing the product prices out of the reach of most buyer's, as the manufacturer's have to pass along the extra costs. I think it is probably a worthwhile effort to amend the PLCAA, and impose some sort of "loser pays" provision. This may help dissuade the junk lawsuit type of behaviour that currently is so popular with the gun control movement. Posted by: -B at August 29, 2006 10:15 AMIf you see some of the Cuomo commercils down here in the NYC area you would see that he makes a big point of his time at HUD and going after the NRA and gun manufacturers. Does not say that it was a waste of taxpayer dollars because it also wasted those companies dollars. He knows his audience and is playing to them maightly Posted by: Rich at August 29, 2006 01:05 PMJeff, you better be glad that Katrina didn't hit new york city. Imagine all those new yorkers heading to Vermont with thier nasty ways. The very first thing they will demand is the locals turning the guns in. I know that is a real downer of a thought. Liberals and mutants in your back yard! Pistine Vermont would be gone. It didn't happen, so your very lucky=). Posted by: ranger nick at August 29, 2006 08:14 PMA Note to Ranger Nick, It may not be happening in a sudden rush like the Katrina event but New Yorkers and Mass. residents are moving to Vermont and they are bringing in their nasty ways. They are doing it slowly and the process is to buy a vacation home then retire here. The effect is to elect progresso-socialist local, state, and national politicians. Vermont is no longer pristine but more "Pistine" like you said. Posted by: breid at August 30, 2006 06:47 AMI think by "efficient" Cuomo means efficient like a three micron filter which will filter out all bacteria and most viruses from water. He wants an ID check that will stop 99.999% of all gun purchases from going through. Posted by: Gerry N. at August 31, 2006 09:44 PMA note to Breid: If your note is true, will the last Vermonter please take down the American flag as he or she heads west. Your welcome in Hoosierland. Thank you and thanks for the info. Posted by: ranger nick at August 31, 2006 10:13 PMAndrew Cuomo:
So tell me Mr. Cuomo if you become the attorney general of the Peoples State of New York will you also go after the Automobile manufacturers? If you want to hold the gun manufacturer liable for the wrongful use of a firearm (say in a liquor store hold up or bank robbery) then you should also go after car manufacturers when someone commits vehicular homicide while driving under the influence. Actually this would be a wonderful two-fer in that you could go after the Automobile Manufacturer and the Liquor distiller. Both somehow, vaguely responsible for the dual misuse of both of their products. . . Posted by: Mike Boelter at September 2, 2006 09:11 PMFYI, Charles King has dropped out of the race and is endorsing Cuomo. Posted by: Allura at September 5, 2006 12:34 PMthe comment input form disappears. Your comments are welcome. You don't need to enter a URL and you don't need a "valid" email address, either. Note though that MT Blacklist is installed to flag suspiciously spam-like strings. Unfortunately, because of the bastard spammers, the strings "google.com" and "yahoo.com" (even in your email address) are currently banned as well. So are strings such as "cialis" (a common spam) which rules out words such as "socialism". Try putting a hyphan in a word like that. By Golly, you're reading an archived post. Click Here to head to the main page and read current stuff...Into science fiction? Check out my group blog novel, Colony: Alchibah. See the reader's guide there for first-timer tips. |