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August 08, 2006NBC Prefers You Play Victim, TooUpdate: Thanks for the responses, both here and via email. I'll put it all together this weekend... In the previous post, I showed how the NY Times is clearly biased against the "Stand Your Ground" -- also known as Castle Doctrine -- laws being passed around the country. This morning on NBC's Today Show they joined the fray, discussing the "iffy" case of a Florida Prostitute who didn't run from an abusive "John" but shot him instead (one of the same stories used by the Times). Missing from both the Times and the NBC News stories was the reason that Stand Your Ground laws were coming into being -- the people who, in the past, were unfairly charged with crimes because they defended themselves and their loved ones. It's obvious that most of Main Stream Media is incapable of anything resembling unbiased reporting. So... I need your help! Many of you know of (or have blogged of) stories about people who used firearms to defend themselves from mutants and were then charged with serious crimes because of that. Or they were sued in civil court by family members (and greedy lawyers) of the shot perpetrators. Can you locate your blog posts or newspaper stories about these cases and post links to them in the comments here? If you prefer, you can email them to me although with all the spam email I get, sometimes stuff gets lost. I want to compile a huge list of reasons -- examples -- of why we DO need "Stand Your Ground" legislation and send that to both NBC News and the New York Times. Since I'm sure they will ignore it since it doesn't fit with their anti-gun agenda, I'll also do a major post here -- forward it to Cam Edwards and CNS News and other good news organizations who can use it to fight the MSN agenda. Thanks! Comments
In February of this year we had an incident in Baton Rouge where a CCW citizen assisted a police officer who was being beaten by a thug. I blogged it here: http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.com/2006/03/baton-rouge-ccw-shooting-update_01.html I hope it helps. Posted by: PawPaw at August 8, 2006 09:14 AMLast April, we had a prisoner escape from a Federal Prison and the citizenry got up in arms. Literally. I blogged it here: http://pawpawshouse.blogspot.com/2006/04/manhunt-continues.html I hope this helps. Pawpaw Posted by: PawPaw at August 8, 2006 09:24 AMI have some from New York listed under "Armed Citizen in New York" off our main website WWW.NYSRPA.ORG Here's a fellow who was charged, tried, and acquitted on self defense grounds. And here's one on two shop owners in NYC charged with gun law violation after self-defense. Here's a guy who was convicted. Posted by: Dave Hardy at August 8, 2006 01:06 PMBTW, here's Don Kates' rebuttal of the article. Posted by: Dave Hardy at August 8, 2006 01:11 PMhere is a link to the bernie goetz case (one link anyway) http://www.courttv.com/archive/verdicts/goetz.html this goes back to NYC a bunch of years ago and it may be too ambiguous to be of use to you but he was successfully sued by the family of one of the muggers. Posted by: Rich at August 8, 2006 02:41 PMClayton Cramer's civilian gun self-defense blog has many such stories. Bernie Goetz saved my butt. Not long after his confrontation, a week or three, but before he was identified as the victim/murderingNaziScumDestroyerOfInnocentInnerCitieGangBangers, I left a friends apartment in lower manhatten well after midnight. While her door was an outside door into a private alley, which also had it's own door, she would not go out late at night. That was a clue. At the time I was 40 pounds lighter, a skinny, white dude with glasses, not unlike Goetz. Close enough for late at night, plus I knew how to act like I had a gun. Walking down the block to my car I was approached by 3 guys that litterally asked me for a match. It was like a bad re-play of a bad Bronson movie. It was winter and I had my key chain in my hand in the pocket of a heavy winter parka. I rubbed the the keys together just enough to make a sound like the cocking of a revolver hammer, while I kept walking past and looking at them. They heard the sound, looked at me, a skinny white dude with glasses, stopped, turned and walked away. So when I tell folks I have used firearms one and a half times in self defense, that was the "half time". Thanks, Bernie! Posted by: tomWright at August 8, 2006 07:10 PMJarnet case in England: Do not forget the Martin Case in England, mentioned in the above post, no link, sorry. Rathburn case: Being a victim is so European... Self-defense only applies if you are invading Poland/France I suppose. Posted by: Scott Kirwin at August 9, 2006 09:33 AMI have been tracking self-defense firearms uses for about 6 years, both online and in the local newspaper (Seattle Post Intelligencer) under the heading "Value of Individual Ownership" 'Self-Defense stories'. I estimate 200-500 or more. Many reports from "Keep and Bear Arms" website, Clayton Cramer's blog, and John R. Lott Jr.'s blog. http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/06/da-hoping-to-prosecute-self-defense.html possible prosecution - going to grand jury. http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/06/so-why-was-this-even-taken-to-trial.html Obviously self-defense, should never have gone to trial. http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/04/prosecuting-self-defense.html http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/03/well-hawaii-does-recognize-self.html http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/04/oklahoma-law-enforcement-upset-about.html http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/01/self-defense-still-legal-in-alaska.html http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2006/01/st-louis-police-hoping-to-prosecute.html http://wheelgun.blogspot.com/2005/10/another-da-detemined-to-prosecute-self.html Posted by: Zendo Deb at August 9, 2006 07:59 PMhere is one from Omaha Here's something that happened to me in the 1980s which I recalled recently: http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/003753.html Back in the 1980s, a psychotic, obviously intoxicated man with bloodshot eyes entered my yard in Berkeley, where there was a wooden door removed from its hinges, waiting to be refinished. The man picked up the door and started throwing it around repeatedly in a manner I can fairly describe as irritating, offensive, and dangerous. (Anyone in the yard could have been severely injured.) When we told him that this was private property and he had to get out, we were completely ignored, as he was having too much fun with his tantrum. At that point, we decided that brandishing a gun might be the best way to change his mind. I will never forget how quickly this "crazy man" showed clear evidence of sanity as soon as he heard the semiautomatic pistol slide being ratcheted back. Jolted into reality (I guess that's the right word for self preservation), he ran from the yard. The police were never called, as we feared that we might be considered the criminals. Ever since then, I have tended to believe that many of these so-called "mentally ill" and "homeless" people have a lot more common sense than the Harvard experts would have us believe. 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