Alphecca

I'm torn on this one.

If Rudy gets the nomination, the Democrats better put someone pro-Gun up. Otherwise I'm going to have to choose between a half-dozen third parties, or taking my chances with Rudy, whom I really admire.

jp

Invite Rudy to the range, see if you can change his mind.

my gut says he won't make it through the primary. he's got alot of baggage that's been pretty polished by his post 9/11 persona but he is at heart, a statist. and you can't polish a statist turd...

As always Jeff you hit the nail on the head. Watched him for years and knew well he was anti-gun. He will sign are gun rights away. He is not to be trusted. Hillary and Rudy on gun issues are as one. That is a sad commentary on Rudy. Greatness must be judge on he that protect our God given rights! I will not vote for him. Keep up the good work.

Donna B.

Rudy is one of the many antis that fully understands the Second Amendment. The problem is that he wants to be one of the elite that gets to rule over us peons and he can't do that if we're armed.

Being in favor of gun control is not really a liberal position. Liberal values dictate that the most vulnerable members of a society deserve protection, including elderly people, handicapped people, women and low-income people forced to live in dangerous neighborhoods. The right to possess firearms is the only real chance that a 100 pound woman living in a bad neighborhood has against gangs of much larger, strogner males who police have not been able to eliminate despite decades of anti-gang efforts.

It's not the 200 pound man who makes $200k a year and lives in a gated neighborhood who benefits the most from the 2nd amendment. It's the most vulnerable people in our society who had no choice throughout history except to be victims before the advent of access to firearms. Every other weapon depends in some way on superior strength or other traits that these vulnerable people just aren't blessed with. Without access to guns, only the strong survive. That is the antithesis of liberal philosophy.

Start pointing this out to liberals rather than insisting that their stance on guns is crucial to their political identity (it isn't) and you'll win a lot more hearts and minds.

Remember that Sarah Brady is a life-long Republican and that Ronald Reagan gave several speeches heartily endorsing the assault weapons ban. Rudy Giuliani illustrates the reality of the divide perfectly. Demand for gun control comes from people in cities and suburbs who did not grow up with hunting and the responsible handling of firearms as a part of their lives. It has nothing to do with conservatism or liberalism. They fear what they don't understand just like people who grow up in rural areas where there are few open homosexuals fear gay people. They don't understand it so explain it to them. These are smart people who are capable of seeing sense if only second amendment rights supporters will explain it to them politely and without trying to drag a bunch of other right-wing political issues into the matter.