Alphecca is a member of "the lunatic fringe of the US right"
--Guardian (UK) 6/26/06

*******************


Yeah, so?


Even my cats
have guns!

serbu_sidebar_125.jpg
Me with Serbu BFG-50

Email me at:
gunnut -at-
alphecca -dot- com

Check it out:

My group sci-fi blog novel:

Colony: Alchibah






Featured in
Outdoor Life Magazine:

outdoor_small.jpg

Yes, I coined the term
"stupid-fucking-computer"

Alphecca gets noticed!
Check out these
GLOWING REVIEWS
I've just made up:

"Sparkles like pewter"
-- Collector's World

"Wonderful, terrific, splendid"
-- Roget's Thesaurus

"Really good"
-- Stereo World, Gun World,
Car World, Travel World,
Computer World, Roger Ebert,
Martha Stewart, Barney, etc...

"I am not an idiut"
--Barbra Streisand



Proud to be an American
US Flag
standing with Israel
Flag of Israel

PageSpinner

...but all errors and sloppy code should be blamed on me...

All non-credited writings
and photos on
Alphecca.com are
(C) Copyright
2002-2008
by Jeff Soyer
All rights reserved.



June 23, 2006

NRA Kills AZ Referendum

I suspect pro-gun blog tongues will be wagging about this later today. From AZ Starnet:


Arizonans won't get to vote on restricting the governor's ability to seize weapons in time of emergency because of last-minute opposition from an unusual source: the National Rifle Association.

Senate Majority Leader Tim Bee said NRA President Sandy Froman indicated the organization wanted "some tweaks" in the language that could not be made this late in the session.

Sen. Toni Hellon, R-Tucson, said Froman's opposition was not so much the language, but the fear of putting the measure on the November ballot and then having to spend potentially millions of dollars to ensure it was not defeated.

[...]

Hellon said the NRA president told her and others in a phone call the organization opposes the plan. "She said 'We do not want this to go to the ballot,' " Hellon said.

She said Froman told lawmakers they like the concept of the measure, but object to the cost of a campaign to support it.

"She said, 'The money we'd have to spend on that is money we cannot use on elections and other things,'" Hellon recalled. The organization prefers that lawmakers pursue the issue legislatively, Hellon said.


Since I don't know all the facts and because I'm not exactly unbiased about the NRA, I'm going to withhold any comment. Oh, what the hell... I wrote about this (the idea of a voter referendum on gun rights) a couple days ago. I was and am against it. I said:

Their hearts are in the right place but this could well back-fire. There is a large new population of "coastal types" who have moved to Arizona to escape the cold, congestion, whatever, who do not share the respect of unmitigated gun rights. While I won't say that it's as bad as -- for instance -- San Francisco, there could be trouble actually getting a majority to approve such a measure.

A better way would have been to go for a veto-proof majority in the state legislature. It would only have taken another couple votes from what I understand. Go to work on those few Democrats who betrayed the original bill during the final vote.


I'm sticking with that. Voter referendums can be dangerous (SF, anyone?) and the legislature would be a better place to go to get this done.

Posted by Jeff Soyer at June 23, 2006 04:01 AM
Comments

Aside from the fact that referenda generally usher in unintended consequences, and that thay are also vulnerable to court challenges... I'd much rather see this issue dealt with via the established democratic process.

And I speak as a resident of Washington, which has gone referendum crazy the past several years. Such measures are often feel good responses that produce incomplete results.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at June 23, 2006 05:27 PM

The biggest mistake in American history was Univeral Suffrage.

Posted by: anonymous at June 25, 2006 01:14 AM

Despite the coastal transplants, I think that the referendum would easily pass in Arizona, a state where open carry is both legal and practiced.

However, I can see the point in the NRA not wanting to spend money on a referendum when it could use the money more profitably elsewhere.

Posted by: Kevin P. at June 27, 2006 11:04 AM

Nothing ventured, Nothing gained. You either trust people to act like adults or you take away their rights and treat them like children. I say if we in Arizona are stupid enough to give up our rights then let it be. I trust my neighbors with a gun, I trust them with a vote. I always use my wife as a good indication of what the general public/soccer mom/democrat would do (she never listens to me about politics so she is relatively outside my republicanism.) She was reading about disaster preparations that you are suppose to have on hand (I think it was in her "O" magazine) and said to me off hand "We need to stock more water, Hey they forgot to put the gun in this list."
A campaign would be easy. One tv spot, that shows New Orleans and how people protected their land and loved ones with guns. I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to find interviewees. Then you could just show some file footage of Mayor announcing that they where going to disarm everyone because the cops were too scared to go into the city. How much would that cost? No need to over play it. Just run it once a night during the nightly news to hit the old people and once during Oprah, for all the scared woman that want protection and know the gov’t is incompetent.

Posted by: Ryan at June 27, 2006 11:44 AM
Note: Comments close down on posts after seven days and then
the comment input form disappears.

Your comments are welcome. You don't need to enter a URL and you don't need a "valid" email address, either. Note though that MT Blacklist is installed to flag suspiciously spam-like strings. Unfortunately, because of the bastard spammers, the strings "google.com" and "yahoo.com" (even in your email address) are currently banned as well. So are strings such as "cialis" (a common spam) which rules out words such as "socialism". Try putting a hyphan in a word like that.

By Golly, you're reading an archived post. Click Here to head to the main page and read current stuff...



Into science fiction? Check out my group blog novel, Colony: Alchibah.
See the reader's guide there for first-timer tips.