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February 27, 2006Hawaii: The People Can't Be Trusted With CCWHawaii is a "may issue" state. Actually it's a "no issue" state. No one has been issued a permit to conceal carry in 15 years! I'm going to quote both the editor's note and the first part of the op-ed from this Hawaii Reporter story:
I understand that while crime is dropping in many states, that isn't the case in Hawaii. From another article in the same paper a week earlier:
And the reason given for these bills to allow citizens a chance to protect themselves being shelved?
The government doesn't trust the people. How scary is that? How sick is that? Most trained firearms enthusiasts spend far more time at the range than cops do. But the Hawaian government doesn't trust "the people" to handle a gun in a stressful situation. Better they should just be robbed, raped, and murdered. I guess Hawaii isn't paradise after all... Posted by Jeff Soyer at February 27, 2006 07:33 AM Comments
Well, if nothing else at least the issue has been brought up in public. With any luck the composition of the government will change for the better after the next election. Sometimes politicans need to be reminded who works for whom. Posted by: Tom at February 27, 2006 07:45 AMJust like NJ. "MAY" issue. Except in our case the permits are issued by a judge 'when it is in the public interest', and the chief of the state supreme court has made it official, publically stated policy that it will NEVER be 'in the public interest' for a permit to be issued. The exceptions being powerful, politically connected people. Like TV stars and reporters. I have spoken to lawyers here in NJ and none of them are interested in bringing suit over this. There have been U.S. S.C. decisions in the past ruling as unconstitutional laws requiring subjective judgements by govt. officials for the issuance of all kinds of business licenses and permits. For some reason, lawyers are too cowardly and unimaginative to consider cases for this. Guess there ain't enough money in it for them. Posted by: tomWright at February 27, 2006 08:19 AMHuummm - a(nother) government dominated by demos for the past few decades that doesn't allow self protection; tell again why anybody is surprised... The only surprise here is that a government spokeman actually admited that "we don't trust people." I bet that line didn't nake it into the local press. Posted by: emdfl at February 27, 2006 06:06 PMIn New Jersey, I'm not sure even the politically-conneceted and MSM/infotainment folks get CCW's. And that that is part of the problem with a legal challenge as there's so few "exceptions" made that there is not much of a paper trail of "subjectivity". It's hard-enough just getting a civilian handgun-purchase permit processed in many jurisdictions. Once your approved, you have to start all-over again if you want a second handgun...even if it's just been a few weeks or months. Posted by: Ted B. (Charging Rhino) at February 27, 2006 10:43 PMSo Hawaii is suffering from an increase in violent crime? What is the matter? We must need more education. Don't the criminals know what they are doing is against the law? Don't they know that failures to issue CCW will give them an unfair advantage over an unarmed citizen? They do? Oh, never mind. Posted by: Jay at February 28, 2006 12:14 AMthe comment input form disappears. Your comments are welcome. You don't need to enter a URL and you don't need a "valid" email address, either. Note though that MT Blacklist is installed to flag suspiciously spam-like strings. Unfortunately, because of the bastard spammers, the strings "google.com" and "yahoo.com" (even in your email address) are currently banned as well. So are strings such as "cialis" (a common spam) which rules out words such as "socialism". Try putting a hyphan in a word like that. By Golly, you're reading an archived post. Click Here to head to the main page and read current stuff...Into science fiction? Check out my group blog novel, Colony: Alchibah. See the reader's guide there for first-timer tips. |