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November 25, 2005

Boston Gripes About NNE Gun Laws

Boston Mayor Thomas Menino is whining about how the Northern New England states (VT, NH, ME) still recognize the Second Amendment. From the Boston Globe:


Guns are being brought into Boston from Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine at a stepped-up pace, according to city officials, who are grappling with a significant rise in shootings and firearms arrests this year.

The guns from northern New England tend to be old and hard to trace. And as long as buyers have enough cash, they can purchase as many handguns and shotguns as they like, authorities say.

In the early 1990s, people trying to circumvent tough Bay State laws that required a state permit to buy a handgun would travel to North Carolina or Georgia in search of guns, police said.

But in the past six months, police have recovered more and more weapons from New England states, Mayor Thomas M. Menino said.

''We can't just put our heads in the sand and say there is no problem," Menino said. ''There is a problem. We have to address it."


Well listen, Tommy baby, why not work to LOOSEN gun laws in Massachusetts so that the average law-abiding citizen is able to protect and defend him/herself? That would send a message to the thugs that their next intended victim might fight back. That might even get some of the mutants to find a different, honest line of work.

The writer of this story also gets wrong:


Federal law requires a five-day waiting period in all 50 states for anyone seeking to buy a handgun from a federally licensed dealer, to allow for a criminal background check. In Massachusetts, in addition to passing the background check, a resident who wants a handgun must also pay $100 for a state-issued permit. Such permits are not required in New Hampshire, Vermont, or Maine, where people buying handguns need only identification that shows they are state residents.

What "five-day waiting period"? Some states might have a waiting period but not VT, NH, or ME. If the NICS check goes through right away, you walk out with the gun. This is all besides the point, of course, since criminals rarely go to an FFL dealer to pay retail for a firearm and subject themselves to the background check. They steal guns, or trade them for drugs, etc.

And I guess the "straw purchase" theory isn't a significant factor either since at the top of the article it clearly says that most of these guns are old ones that have passed through many hands.

Then there's this clunker:


Law enforcement officials in New Hampshire, Maine, and Vermont acknowledge that their looser restrictions may lead to an influx of guns in cities like Boston and Hartford. But Madden, of New Hampshire, said tightening gun laws to stop the flow would be difficult because of strong lobbying from groups that advocate the right to bear arms.

I can't speak for L.E. "officials" in NH and ME but that paragraph is total bullshit regarding the feelings in Vermont. Almost every police chief in Vermont supports the right of the people to buy, own, and carry a firearm. Even the "liberal" Democratic politicians in this state support the Second Amendment and I can't recall even one in the last twelve years calling for more gun control.

When I took the Vermont State Police Civilian Police Academy about ten years ago, virtually all of the Staties teaching the course, as well as the head of the VSP and the local barracks captain said our laws are just about right and they WANTED citizens to own and carry. Why? Because there aren't enough police to protect everyone. Indeed, at night you will rarely find any Staties on the road at all.

Oh well, nobody ever accused the Boston Globe of accurate reporting, or even consistency within the same article...

Posted by Jeff Soyer at November 25, 2005 07:53 AM
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Yet another example of the 100's of layers of fact checking in the MSM at work. In CO. it usually takes about 20 minutes to get okayed for a gun purchase.

Posted by: Brass at November 25, 2005 09:42 AM

Reasons to hate Massachussets, Part 300000000

Posted by: Jakester at November 25, 2005 11:47 AM

Hey, I didn't have to do that 5-day wait thing in Michigan.

Posted by: karrde at November 25, 2005 10:00 PM

Fricken Massholes (apologies to Jay G and Bruce of course, while I write this from the disarmed Peoples Republik of New Jersey)

Posted by: countertop at November 25, 2005 11:09 PM

That article just makes me seethe. Massachusetts has turned their state into a criminal loving hell hole and not being content to screw up their patch of the earth, they have to come and try and screw with other states that work perfectly fine. The crime rates are low in NH, VT and ME and all three have gun laws that are about the most in sync with the Constitution. I already spend a lot of money not to live in that hell hole of a state and I will be go* da*ned if I sit idly by while those Massholes try to pull my adopted state down into the rat infested soup that they helped create.

Posted by: Yosemite Sam at November 25, 2005 11:21 PM

"In Massachusetts, in addition to passing the background check, a resident who wants a handgun must also pay $100 for a state-issued permit."

$100 is the downpayment for a gun license for (non-politically connected) Boston residents.

Posted by: Bruce at November 26, 2005 10:32 PM

This story has more holes than my spaghetti colander.

Posted by: Bruce at November 26, 2005 10:41 PM

And as Bruce will no doubt attest, there is no five day waiting period in Massachusetts. It takes about half an hour to fill out the paperwork, and the gun comes home with you the same day.

Ignorant fucking hoplophobes.

Posted by: Jay G at November 27, 2005 10:50 PM

Once again it's Mumbles blaming someone else for his incompetence. This is the same Mayor that blamed the increase in crime on Federal cutbacks. No matter what, he will find someone else to blame, and as long as the sheeple keep electing him it won't change.

Posted by: Derek at November 28, 2005 10:20 AM

My letter to the Globe reporter responsible for this misinformation:

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Maria:

Anybody with an Massachusetts Firearms Identification ("FID") can walk into a sporting goods store, and within minutes walk out with a handgun and ammunition. There's no 5-day waiting period. Some states, like CA, have a waiting period. Most states do not, Massachusetts included.

We use the same system firearms dealers in all 50 states use, the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). This applies to VT, NH, and ME. This system has been in place since passage of the Brady Act in 1993. If firearms recovered by the BPD can be traced using NICS data, the information should be, and has been, given to the FBI and the ATF. It's a federal crime to act as a "straw man", so somewhere along the chain of ownership a crime has been committed. What has been the outcome of those investigations? Did you ask? Does anyone care?

If some recovered weapons are "untraceable", how possibly can anyone pinpoint their source of origin, as you indicate city officials do, and blame other New England states? You base your premise on the anecdotal say-so of a former drug dealer. "I know one person..." is not proof.

Looking "at some strategies to strengthen our state borders" is a ridiculous and blame-shifting statement which you let go unchallenged. Perhaps if the 26-year old former drug dealer, who you depend upon for "evidence," faced severe jail time instead of volunteering "with a Dorchester group that helps at-risk youth," he might have been willing to testify against the person breaking federal firearms laws by illegally purchasing weapons, and transferring them across state lines. (Try researching how the city of Richmond, VA, used these federal laws to strengthen their gun crime conviction rates.)

You should do a follow-up piece to see if Larry Mayes, the city's chief of human services, is stopping vehicles coming into Massachusetts via 93 and 95, and checking their trunks.

Sincerely,

xxxx

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