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October 06, 2005Bad Cops, Bad Cops...Should it be legal for a cop to break the law to catch another law-breaker? Personally, I don't think so. A judge in Nashville thinks otherwise. From the Tennessean:
It is true that cops are never really off-duty, or rather that they are expected to be ready to be a cop IF NEEDED when off-duty. And that is well and good except that these cops were in no condition to be on-duty:
I can still be sympathetic -- a bit -- for the cops if they were really there to pursue bad guys but:
According to their tabs, one cop had 1-2 drinks and the other had 2-3. Assuming they were average sized-guys, they must have been doing some drinking elsewhere before they got there to "blow .1%". They were sloshed, at least according to the laws and criteria they use to arrest us everyday citizens for DUI or public drunkeness. If we're too impaired at .1% to drive or perform everyday activities then thay were too impaired to be conducting a police investigation. This is hypocrisy and it's also dangerous that they were in a position to use firearms. And did they drive there? When the government and it's authorities tell us that we must obey the law but they don't have to, something is very wrong. Comments
forget about the bad cops, let's look at the hot cops. :-) http://newjerseyblog.blogspot.com/2005/10/arrest-me.html Posted by: Justin at October 6, 2005 01:43 PMI was about to go along with this until they got to the alcohol part, and yeah, that is where it all blows up for me. If you are really there on business then yes, get drinks, and mingle, but have the bartender give you virgin drinks, that way you can still do the job you say you are there to do. Posted by: Windaria at October 6, 2005 02:11 PMUh, a quibble: the "Government" did not let them off the hook - in fact, still has not - but brought charges. If they get fired they can always go to work for the New Jersey PD driving around other states at 95 mph with the lights on. Posted by: robert at October 6, 2005 07:39 PMGot to disagree here Jeff. Cops were undercover - maybe they should have reported going in that night before hand, maybe not. Who is to say, neither of us were there. But, if your investigating a bar for drug activity and you need to fit in - its best to order a real drink. bartenders know all and if there is any suspicion of your presence, then the best way to hide it might be with a drink. And, they didn't drink very much. Not more than one or two drinks. No, I don't think they went elsewhere either. Here's why - MADD has succeeded in ways the gun banners only dreamed they could. MADD is now a taxpayer funded anti-alcohol prohibitionsist organization. They have managed to drop the acceptable drinking limit to the point where having 1 drink - which in no way makes most people drunk (though it does make me uncomfortably lightheaded) would put you over the legal limit. Its all about perspective. .08 or .10 - think of them like the assault weapons debate. We were able to beat the gun banners on false logic and their new definitions - in the fight against MADD no one has. See Randy Balko's recent article for more on the fraud that is MADD. Posted by: countertop at October 7, 2005 10:25 AMIt takes more than one or two drinks to get a blood-level of .1% and frankly, that IS impared for a worker in any industry except -- maybe a writer. They were in no position to investigate anything or to be wielding firearms. My point, though, is that if WE cannot drive or work or walk the streets with .1% than neither should THEY be allowed to. Posted by: Jeff Soyer at October 7, 2005 10:32 AMFair enough. Posted by: countertop at October 7, 2005 11:21 AMthe comment input form disappears. Your comments are welcome. You don't need to enter a URL and you don't need a "valid" email address, either. Note though that MT Blacklist is installed to flag suspiciously spam-like strings. Unfortunately, because of the bastard spammers, the strings "google.com" and "yahoo.com" (even in your email address) are currently banned as well. So are strings such as "cialis" (a common spam) which rules out words such as "socialism". Try putting a hyphan in a word like that. By Golly, you're reading an archived post. Click Here to head to the main page and read current stuff...Into science fiction? Check out my group blog novel, Colony: Alchibah. See the reader's guide there for first-timer tips. |