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February 12, 2005

Fla Bill Would Untie Victim's Hands

Currently under Florida law, if you shoot a home intruder, you'd better be able to show that you felt your life was in immanent danger. A bill working it's way through the state legislature would change that. From the St. Petersburg Times:


TALLAHASSEE - More than a decade has passed since Sen. Jim King woke up to find a man pointing a gun at his head.

It's been 15 years since Sen. Evelyn Lynn woke up - twice - to find intruders in her home.

But both remember the events as if they were yesterday, prompting both to vote Wednesday for a bill expanding the rights of Floridians to use deadly force when threatened in their homes and cars.

The bill (SB436) passed the Senate Committee on Criminal Justice unanimously.

It must pass one more committee before heading to the full Senate. An identical bill is working its way through the House.

Under current law, homeowners cannot use deadly force unless they believe an intruder intends to kill them or a loved one, or severely harm them. Although criminal case law tends to favor homeowners, anyone who kills an intruder can be arrested.

Under the bill, anyone who breaks into an occupied house or car would be presumed to have deadly intent. Victims would no longer have to determine the intruder's intent.

"You can't expect a victim to wait and ask, "Excuse me, Mr. Criminal, are you going to rape me and kill me, or are you just going to beat me up and steal my television?' " said Marion Hammer, lobbyist for the National Rifle Association.

The bill has law enforcement support because it does not allow homeowners to shoot law officers who legally break into homes, such as when they believe someone is in harm or evidence is being destroyed.

"I think if you talked to the average Joe or Jane Citizen they would say, "There ought to be a law.' This is your chance to make a law," said David Murrell, lobbyist for the Florida Police Benevolent Association.

The bill does not allow people to shoot intruders outside the home.


This is good news in that it removes the "burden of proof" from a homeowner who might only have seconds to make a decision to use deadly force. I do hope, however, that most law-abiding gun owners realize that if they discover someone in their home who shouldn't be there, and the homeowner is holding a firearm on them and they don't act threatening that they should still employ restraint. Being able to doesn't mean having to.

While this story was mostly unbiased -- indeed not at all from our standpoint in that they didn't include a single negative comment about the proposed law -- I didn't like the implication the Lead Writer put onto the story, "Bill would paint target on backs of intruders. I think most of us would agree that if we were to surprise a common-variety burglar "in the act" and he turns to flee, we would (well, I wouldn't) shoot him in the back. I might order him to "freeze" and hold him for the police since we all want him off the streets. But to shoot someone who (unless you've discovered that they just murdered your family or something) turns and runs from you is not grounds (to me) for justifiable homicide.

Posted by Jeff Soyer at February 12, 2005 09:53 AM
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This is very good. I would not shoot someone I know to be unarmed and not a threat, but I should be under no obligation to ask.

Posted by: Ken Summers at February 12, 2005 10:58 AM

The problem is.. is he running, or retreating?

There is a fundamental difference between those - and you don't know at the time which he's doing. Is he abandoning, and running pell-mell, or is he merely retreating to a more defensible/more tactical location?

And the answer is - you don't know. Nor should be held accountable as a situation that acts out in seconds takes 4 days in a courtroom to discuss.

I doubt most criminals really care where they shoot you - the front or the back, should they be wont to do such things. Unless they call and make an appointment - you don't know what *they* are capable of, either.

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