Gun Control CrowdJeff Soyer on 20 Nov 2009 07:58 am
AG Holder Wants National Gun Registration
That’s according to the Law Enforcement Alliance of America:
Holder wants a national, permanent gun registration system administered by law enforcement. A registration of honest citizens that have cleared the federal background check for gun purchases with those records permanently retained by and shared among law enforcement.
If true, we all know what comes next. Registration has always led to confiscation.
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on 20 Nov 2009 at 10:31 am # Dave
Not only no———–HELLS NO!!
That is my line in the sand, I will never register my firearms
on 20 Nov 2009 at 10:47 am # PhilaBOR
www.jpfo.org
Look at their page on gun confiscations preceeding genocide. Typically by 1-3 decades.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 12:21 pm # Oscar
On the surface, this makes no sense — to pick a pitched fight with gun owners. However, if you look at the bigger picture, this fits a very consistent pattern.
It looks like this is for “all the marbles”, as it were.
First, the health care overhaul will empower the federal government to manage the most private aspects of your life, and creates the funding and regulatory framework for complete control of your health (and thus your body) under a single-payer program.
Second, the cap-and-trade bill will empower the federal government to manage all of your energy usage. They began the process by banning regular lightbulbs, they will move to cap-n-trade and the creation of a “smart grid”, and finalize with centrally-controlled energy monitors in your home (as was proposed in California not long ago) and rationing of gasoline and diesel for travel. Fuel rationing will make gatherings such as Tea Parties very difficult, as the movement of large groups of individuals via cars or buses will require large amounts of fuel — rations will invariably be denied for the politically incorrect. The right of peaceable assembly will remain on paper, but will be logistically impossible for all but the very rich or individuals living in high-density areas with mass public transport, such as NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, and DC.
Third, the WH has made it clear that they plan to move forward with immigration “reform” next year. This will be nothing less than amnesty for illegal immigrants. African-Americans comprise 13% of the population and vote more than 90% Democrat; Hispanics are approximately 15% of the population. With amnesty, you can probably increase this to about 20%, and any new voters coming out of an amnesty will be loyal to those that “brung ‘em” — Obama and the Democrats. [Full Disclosure: I am Hispanic, so this is not a racist thing.] You can expect Hispanics to mimic the voting patterns of African-Americans in future elections, if amnesty is enacted. With 80-90% of the African-American and Hispanic vote, Democrats will need only 50% of the woman’s vote, and a minority of any other group to lock in perpetual power.
Fourth, the trial of Kalik Sheikh Mohammed will provide the court precedents for certain conviction of any American civilian that the federal government deems a “terrorist”. Holder has guaranteed the conviction of KSM, even though (technically) KSM is innocent until proven guilty. What Holder’s guarantee means is that the trial of KSM will be nothing more than a kangaroo court with a pre-determined outcome. However, since this is the first time that a terrorist captured on the battlefield will be tried in a civilian court, the precedents for jury selection, evidence, and cross-examination to be used in future trials of this type will be used to effect conviction regardless of guilt. Those who resist goverment edicts, therefore, can expect to be convicted once they are re-branded as “anti-government terrorists”. [The DHS Napolitano report on “right-wing extremists” should come in handy when profiling this new class of enemies.]
As a final nail in the coffin, firearms registration will facilitate the process of firearms confiscation. By the time confiscation takes place, the levers of State power will rest completely with a new federal nomenklatura of perpetually re-elected Democrat politicians and unelected federal bureaucrats. The ballot box, as a means of effecting peaceful change, will be nullified. Armed revolt, as the last means to effect change, will be nullified through firearms confiscation: everyone with the means to resist will be disarmed; anyone who retains the will to resist will be strung up after being tried in federal kangaroo courts as “anti-government terrorists”. Indeed, I expect that by the time confiscation is enacted, there will be few resisters left. That is, those with the will to resist firearms confiscation are probably also likely to resist the individual health insurance mandate enacted as part of the health care overhaul bill. If so, by the time confiscation of firearms takes place, many of those with the will to resist will already be in jail. Those who abide by the health care mandate but resist confiscation will be an infinitesimally small number — they will be picked off one-by-one by local, state, or federal law enforcement.
When the pattern can be discerned, the possibilities become crystal clear.
Bills and measures being pushed by Obama and Congress represent a type of political “blitzkrieg”. As in the initial invasions of Poland and France by the Wehrmacht, the principles are very similar: the attacker uses the elements of surprise and momentum to overwhelm and demoralize the defenders, breaking through weak defense points on a wide front, and giving defense forces the impression that the attackers are literally everywhere. Obama and his acolytes are moving on a wide front, attacking in one sector after another in a rolling movement. While defenders move to respond to one attack, the attackers have already broken through another sector down the line. Before the defenders know what has happened, the attacker has already out-flanked them, cut them off from reinforcement, and left them to wither on the vine.
As I said before, this is for “all the marbles”.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 12:39 pm # Oscar
Sorry, hit the enter button before I was finished. Long, huh?
Anyway, the proper response to Obama’s assault on our liberties is pretty straightforward: resist on all fronts. Following the “blitzkrieg” analogy, we cannot allow a breakthrough on any sector. If they break through on one sector, they can surround us and destroy us — the momentum of victory will be with them.
A stiff defense, therefore, above all else.
An alternative is available, but it is fraught with danger: counter-attack. In the political/legislative world, a counterattack is represented by the simplest of actions: repeal. So, we counterattack by repealing unpopular measures that oppress the people. Begin with ridiculous things, such as the authority of the Consumer Safety Product Commission to oversee yard sales, taxes on alcohol and cigarettes, bans on internet gambling, etc. Re-acquaint the people with their liberties. As you move forward in the process of repealing legislation, you can begin to dismantle the regulatory agencies and frameworks that make measures such as cap-n-trade and gun confiscation possible. Remember, cap-n-trade is only possible because Congress has empowered the EPA to regulate/control pollution; once CO2 was declared a “pollutant”, the EPA could claim authority to regulate its emission. Without the EPA, or with a much more constrained EPA, Congress would have a much longer and harder road to follow in order to control our energy use as they wish to.
Defense above all; counter-attack when possible.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 2:01 pm # Sigivald
If the only source is a press release on PRNewsWire (or people pointing to same), disregard it.
That’s a heuristic that’s served me well for a long time.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 3:18 pm # Jim
Well said, Oscar!
on 20 Nov 2009 at 3:33 pm # jason
Nothing to worry about Comrade. It is in your best interest to not have dangerous implements about. Besides, we will provide for all your needs.
See “make mine freedom” it is a video on Youtube.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 3:46 pm # Matt
I’m not surprised Holder might want it. I know given the chance he’d restrict and take any firearm from lawful owners that he could get his hands on.
It is up to Congress, however, to make that happen. Assuming truth in Holder’s statement, Congress would need to repeal 18 USC 926(a). This is the language that specifically forbids the Federal government and its agencies from establishing national firearms registries and/or licensing. Since it is law now, that law needs to change and Congress will need to pass a bill making it happen.
The chances of this happening in the near-future are between miniscule and imaginary. I would point out that HR.45, the Blair Holt bill, has language in it specifically repealing this section of law so Congress is fully aware of what needs to be done to make national registration possible. This bill has gone nowhere. Holder can howl and whinge all he wants. Congress has shown no desire to move in this direction.
To do so is to a) paint a very large target on themselves come next election and b) act for many as the “bright shining line” that the Government is going too far and is truly intent on tyranny as the outcome.
National registration would result in massive civil disobedience. Most would be symbolic given the Gov’t has the means already to build a partial registry (and probably has illegally done so) using NICS information. But it would not encompass enough firearms to allow for effective confiscation even if it was their next move. I would expect 30-40 percent of the 280+ million firearms do not appear in records for a variety of reasons. Private sales, pre-NICS paperwork lost, pre-1968 transfers that have no information whatsoever, inheritance, personally built guns that don’t require gov’t approval/notification and so on.
This, of course, assumes that if they came for the 70 percent or so they knew about that they wouldn’t take casualties in the process. Even if one percent of the firearms owners in this country shot back, it would decimate every law enforcement agency in the country. There aren’t enough cops or federal agents in the country to sustain that level of casualties. At three percent, gun owners would outnumber the military.
Passing national registration is political suicide. Assuming somehow the government survived that action at the ballot box and opted for the next step, it would be national suicide to attempt it. Registration is the warning bell, the sound to the country to wake up and inform us they are coming.
I suspect the people will not let it happen willingly. I have hope of that.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 5:05 pm # kalashnikat
Wonder what Obama wanted all those internal national security troops for…Remember? A whole new civilian agency comparable in size and funding to the DoD? Don’t remember that one?
Remember this speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
Naah….it can’t happen here…
The Military take an oath to defend the Constitution, and a significant number would balk at trying to enforce confiscation, and you’re right that regular law enforcement would not be sufficient once the word got out they were knocking on doors…but a new national security force without a long tradition of honor and service, whose leaders owe the creation of their agency to the Bamster? I’m not a conspiracy theorist…but I’m not liking the general direction here. Sure smells like brownshirted Ministry of the Interior troops to me.
If at some point they ever try it there will be blood on the doorsteps of a lot of homes…doesn’t mean they won’t try it.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 6:12 pm # Keith
My guns are all registered, that’s why I had to hand my pistols in.
You are offered registration,
You will get confiscation
K
on 20 Nov 2009 at 8:28 pm # MASSACHUSETTS REFUGEE
Start buying shovels and PVC piping…
on 20 Nov 2009 at 9:40 pm # Dr. T
Matt is too optimistic. Ten years ago it would have been political suicide to try to federalize non-elderly health care. A bill starting this process will pass soon.
Many people see nothing wrong with registering guns. They consider it the equivalent of registering motor vehicles. They don’t understand that you cannot use a Prius to overthrow a government that buried our Constitution. But, because people are blind to this, we could quickly end up like Canada (full gun registration) and later end up like the UK (all guns confiscated).
I believe that Obama will find a way to remain in office past 2017. It will be easier for him if no one has rifles. He doesn’t want to get kicked out like Honduran President Zelaya (who, amazingly, is being allowed to return to office, in large part due to pressure from Obama).
on 20 Nov 2009 at 9:44 pm # MAJ Mike
I’m 59 years old.
I’m getting tired of this s**t.
I’ve accomplished all of the really important things in my life.
I’m a retired 11B10 (Army MOS of Light Weapons Infantryman).
Homeland Security already thinks I’m a terrorist.
The time is fast approaching to show them how Texans can make war.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 10:44 pm # Brian Epps
Confiscation would have left me with a dead dog tonight. I just had to shoot a stray.
I had at need. I never though I would ever use my guns for anything but poking holed in paper and maybe hunting, but I am glad I had the right gun at the right time.
Keep up the good fight!
on 20 Nov 2009 at 11:04 pm # Tom
“They don’t understand that you cannot use a Prius to overthrow a government that buried our Constitution.”
I’m willing to consider any option. Before 9/11 airplanes weren’t commonly considered cruise missiles either. Perhaps a fleet of them and some creative rewiring they could be used as mobile “hot seats” to chauffeur congress around if the need were to arise.
on 20 Nov 2009 at 11:46 pm # Jim
Maj Mike. If you’re ever in the Galveston area, look me up, might’cha? Texas City Municipal Range is only 15 min. from here.
Oh, and at 51, I’ve done most of what I’m going to do. I’d like to enjoy a nice long life, but if they take liberty from that, what’s the point?
Some things just have to be fought for.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
on 21 Nov 2009 at 12:02 am # Daniel
I am thinking of a couple chained predators on my property.
Just enough chain to ensure to evidence of trespassers will ever exist.
on 21 Nov 2009 at 11:03 pm # MAJ Mike
Jim:
I live in San Antonio.
Thanks for the invitation.
There’s more of us out here than some may think.
on 23 Nov 2009 at 8:31 pm # straightarrow
I have been dead, twice. It holds not much fear for me. And I’m too damn old to have much ambition in the way of future achievments or pleasures for that matter. However, I was born free. I will die free no matter how and no matter what I must do to guarantee it.