IL: Springfield Armory May Leave State, Too.
I posted recently about how Les Baer is leaving Illinois (now confirmed) because of the foolish, liberal, feel good anti-gun legislation coming out of the statehouse. ArmaLite is also considering leaving. These exits are the result of many years of threatened draconian gun control legislation but were lately spurred by an AWB (”assault weapons ban”) bill and another, a limit on magazine capacity moving swiftly through the current state legislature and that assuredly will be signed by the Governor. These bills not only prohibit the sale of such items but the manufacture of them as well.
Now there’s further proof that these bills are going to cost jobs:
Inside the Springfield Armory on Monday, there’s a look at the hands-on craftsmanship sparking this Geneseo business since 1974. The kind of work that created 165 jobs there and some 500 around the Quad City area at other gun-related companies.
But gun manufacturers and local legislators are warning that the $20 million payroll will disappear if legislation passes to limit the number of bullets in a gun magazine. Already passed in the Illinois Senate, it could come up in the Illinois House next week.
“It really leaves us no other choice but to leave,” said Tom Reese, Springfield Armory co-owner. “It would be virtually impossible for us to operate our business.”
That’s why downstate politicians and gun makers are speaking out. They’re voicing strong opposition to a proposal that would ban gun magazines containing more than 10 bullets.
“If Chicago has a problem, let Chicago take care of it,” said State Rep. Pat Verschoore, (D-Rock Island). “But leave the downstate people alone.”
First of all, if a gun is criminally used, it makes no difference what the capacity of the magazine is since, as we saw with the Va Tech mutant, Cho, he had time to slam in one magazine after another as he made his way from classroom to classroom with no law abiding, armed student or professor available to (possibly) stop him. That’s generally the case with common street thugs assaulting unarmed citizens as well. It only takes one bullet to kill.
Secondly, unfortunately, anti-gun liberals and legislators are unlikely to care that they are costing their state good paying jobs and tax paying businesses. For them, this is all about symbolism. There’s a gang problem in Chicago and “By Golly, we’re doing something about it!” Which is ridiculous, of course, since criminals by definition aren’t going to obey ANY law, much less one that limits the tools of their trade. Never let it be said, though, that a bad law ever prevented political posturing.
Here’s a safe prediction: Whatever new gun control laws are passed by the Illinois State House, they will not affect the violent crime rate one whit. Criminal control laws might, but that would take courage and money for law enforcement.
21 Responses to “IL: Springfield Armory May Leave State, Too.”



on 15 May 2007 at 7:43 am # Dan
Well, looks like Chicago was able to successfully drive out the Walmart and soon SA from Illinois. Wish they put this much effort in making Chicago uninhabitable for gangbangers also.
on 15 May 2007 at 8:44 am # Lergnom
Tell ‘em to relocate to Pennsylvania. We could use some light, clean industry, and our tax structure is probably better than where they are now.
on 15 May 2007 at 8:53 am # BruceR
Why does a business continue to stay in a location that has been, and always be, hostile to them? Fighting that hostility is a huge tax on that business and its customers. It drains financial and (possibly worse) emotional resources from the owners and managers who would rather focus on the business, its products, and customers.
on 15 May 2007 at 8:58 am # Jason
I don’t blame Springfield Armory one bit. The first handgun I bought was a Springfield XD, and I did so to keep my money in the state. I did the same when I bought an AR from Rock River Arms for the same reason. Now that the governor and his Chicago pals want to tax everything in sight to make way for their pet projects our version of Gun Valley has no real choice except to move.
This, mind you, is how Chicago Democrats thank their non-Chicago party allies. They throw them under the bus.
I hope they go to a nearby state so I can still drive to the company HQ should anything break on my gun.
on 15 May 2007 at 12:10 pm # Gringo_Malo
If I remember correctly, Model 1 Sales used to be in Illinois. They’re relocated to Texas. I’ve built a couple of ARs using their parts kits. The down side is that I now have to pay sales tax on their kits.
on 15 May 2007 at 1:27 pm # KCSteve
Hey, over here in Missouri we’ve been telling them for years that they could make a short move, be next to an ammo maker and use the slogan “New Springfield, Same Armory”.
on 15 May 2007 at 4:31 pm # Flighterdoc
Well, maybe they’ll actually get some quality control, and reasonable business practices (like selling spare parts to owners, or not demanding that drop in parts only be ‘fitted’ at the factory - which causes owners a major investment in shipping, and loss of use of their property for months at a time).
Glad I got rid of all my SA crap
on 15 May 2007 at 6:47 pm # bud
Why any business continues to supply tax revenue to the same clowns that are trying to put them out of business is beyond me. This psychology may be the source of the famous Communist dictum: “When it’s time to hang the Capitalists, they will vye to sell us the rope.”
And let me be the first to point out the new frontier for the gun controllers: magazine possesion limits.
“Limit magazine size.”
“The perp will just carry more magazines.”
…
on 15 May 2007 at 11:18 pm # Daniel
Why do I get the feeling that Illinois is going have more violent criminals than Missouri?
Very shortly.
Anybody else see the connection?
on 16 May 2007 at 12:57 am # Nev-joe
Hell have them to move northern nevada. We could use the jobs, and this is one of the fastest growing states.
on 16 May 2007 at 1:27 am # Gregg
Love to have them move to Florida.
I can’t believe any firearms manufacturer would stay in a state that is actively working to destroy their industry.
on 16 May 2007 at 8:00 am # jonathan
What Chicago wants and what Illinois wants are two very different things.
on 19 May 2007 at 6:59 pm # rowdy yates
Frankly think SA should just head east on 90 out of chicago and when they hit Vermont stop and set up shop. In VT you can take your loaded hi-cap SA .45 anywhere you want except federal buildings and schools. I heard that you have to check it at the bar. But what happens after you’re drunk? “Hey bartender, I’m s***faced gimme my gun back”? Probably not. Anyway we’d be really glad to see SA here. We need more quality industrial jobs. But I guess that’s USA wide after NAFTA.
on 20 May 2007 at 9:40 pm # maxnnr
Tell the Springfield Armory that there is a Springfield here in Nebraska. They could keep the same name and we would LOVE to have them!!
on 20 May 2007 at 9:54 pm # Clem
Hey! Come on down to Southern Arizona! We got lots of space in Tucson for you guys!
on 21 May 2007 at 11:32 am # Mike Moser
To Springfield Armory ,come to Arizona specifically Marana.Alot of developement land and an ample supply of employees to choose from.
on 22 May 2007 at 11:26 am # RVN11B
There is a Springfield here in Missouri that would be a good location.
No matter what guys please get the hell out of that insane situation.
The citizens of Illinois do not rule their state. That clot brain in Chicago does.
Really sad, if you ask me.
on 22 May 2007 at 5:44 pm # dferguson
I am pro-gun! But, has any of the boneheaded politicians thought about the economic impact of their proposed legislation? It will cost the state a lot of tax money for the gun factories, lots of jobs, and if people and business move out it costs them TAX DOLLARS! It looks like a NO BRAINER TO ME!~
Dan
on 25 May 2007 at 12:08 pm # Barry T
Every time a shooting incident happens in Chicago, they cry out to ban all weapons in Illinois. They currently have one of the most stringent handgun ordinances in the country and that still does not stop the shootings. I cannot wait until the day (H@ll freezing over) that the anti-gun lobby understands that criminals will ALWAYS have access to firearms. I recently bought the hi-cap XD just in case the legislation does pass. What a sad day we are coming to when our own legislators are trying to make us (the law abiding citizens) the criminals.
Barry
on 31 May 2007 at 5:14 pm # statikf
Barry T: Ya I bought a tec-9 before the ban and some then I realized that I’d have better luck getting 30rds downrange with a bolt action, but I did my part to spite the gun control bastards here!
on 06 Jun 2007 at 9:37 pm # joe-ill'in
hey, i am from south illinois… yep, there is more to illinois than chick-a-go….. and yes, more to it than a bunch of commie weasels parading around as americans… most of these are found inside of chicago. it would be better for illinois if we could get the commies to ussr and chicago back to the french…. then illlinois would be a lot better place to raise a family and be able to defend oneself from the thugs that are left to prey on the helpless and disarmed. enable the people, free the political prisoners of south illinois… give us our contitution back…
enable the women to be on an equal foothold, get them a gun and teach them to use it if they don’t. take back our carry rights given and endowed by our constitution and creator.